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In message: <20030809095333.GB47690@freebie.xs4all.nl>
            Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl> writes:
: On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 06:38:51AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
: > In message <20030809020121.GC1741@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" 
: > writes:
: > 
: > >> and it seems that vinum does not respect the D_NOGIANT flag which
: > >> GEOM recently started setting.
: > >
: > >Probably because it didn't know about it.  As I've said before, it
: > >would be nice to be informed about the changes you're making,
: > >particularly given your stated intention of doing no work on Vinum.
: > 
: > I had the choice between supporting sos@ effort to de-Giantize ATA
: > or wait for the non-maintainer of vinum to possibly react to his email
: 
: Come on.. a bit of politeness goes a long way..

As would a little technical information.  It does no harm to send off
a message that tells of API breakage/introduction.

: > so I chose the former as being more beneficial to the project.


Warner