From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 14 12:07:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9A6106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A7F8FC19 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC01FFC22; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 122A184495; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:07:40 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Benjamin Lutz References: <201001141016.56877.mail@maxlor.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:07:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <201001141016.56877.mail@maxlor.com> (Benjamin Lutz's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:16:56 +0100") Message-ID: <867hrkx52s.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Fetchmail made me a spammer X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:07:41 -0000 Benjamin Lutz writes: > 2) Fetchmail downloads that 20MB email from the public POP3 server. > 3) Fetchmail tries to pass the email to the local postfix server. > 4) Postfix refuses the email with a permanent 552 error because > it's larger than 10MB. > 5) Fetchmail generates and sends a rejection notice, but does not > delete the 20MB Email from the POP3 server because the > "softbounce" option is still the default. > 6) Fetchmail sleeps 60 seconds. > 7) Continue at step 2). > [...] > - Fetchmail's defaults are dangerous. The softbounce option, which is the > default (the manpage claims it'll be disabled by default with the next > version,) can generate large amounts of spam. None of this would have happened if you were using IMAP instead of POP. Unlike POP, IMAP a) provides a way to mark a message as "processed" without deleting it and b) does not renumber messages or reuse message numbers. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no