From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 10:47:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1190516A422; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B7E43D62; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:47:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB5AlQrP061002; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:47:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jB5AlQX2061001; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:47:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20051205112918.4x1fceccg0k8wssk@netchild.homeip.net> References: <20051204151945.29aae42d@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <4393913E.3020902@FreeBSD.org> <20051205094053.50p5wfogg8g4404o@netchild.homeip.net> <1133775145.59675.15.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20051205112918.4x1fceccg0k8wssk@netchild.homeip.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2/LIthuxMDswjHiMJI4i" Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:47:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1133779645.59675.30.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Adam Weinberger Subject: Re: Proposal for an additional (sub)section in the porters handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:47:30 -0000 --=-2/LIthuxMDswjHiMJI4i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexander Leidinger p=ED=B9e v po 05. 12. 2005 v 11:29 +0100: > Pav Lucistnik wrote: >=20 > > Alexander Leidinger p=EDse v po 05. 12. 2005 v 09:40 +0100: > >> Adam Weinberger wrote: > >> > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > >> >> Some maintainers prefer to use install-time plists. While the use o= f > >> >> them is not forbitten, maintainers have to use commit-time plists > >> >> wherever possible. > >> > > >> > See, as soon as you use "have to", you've negated any purpose of you= r > >> > addition past political rhetoric. The entire thing could be shortene= d > >> > >> Ah! Pav, did you referenced to this as being "political" as well? I th= ought > >> you talked about the "benefits"-list. Ok, I will change this. > > > > Possibly. > > > > I have an experience that every extra sentence equals to a percentage o= f > > readers not reading the text at all. Thus, I prefer to keep the texts i= n > > Porter's Handbook down to the minimum, while saying everything > > important. > > > > Think law book. You don't justify the rules in the law book. You just > > say this will be done, this can be done, this is prohibited. >=20 > Uhm... now I don't know where to go. If we talk about a law book I prefer= to > talk with "must" and "must not" instead of "should" and "should not". My > main motivation to not use "should" is the way a "should" is handled in > RFC's. It's a "you do *not* have to care about this", but the intend of t= his > additional section is "you *have* to care about this". Yeah, this is not an RFC, thanks god. You can put "We really like to see a static plist whenever feasible." and no one is gonna sue you about it. It's all about the fun and games, in the end, right? This is not worth hard policy and fighting. But it's good to have an official doc in hand to beat lazy maintainers over the fingers with. --=20 Pav Lucistnik A cow is a sphere that emits milk into all directions. At least to a first approximation. -- An unknown physicist --=-2/LIthuxMDswjHiMJI4i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Toto je =?iso-8859-2?Q?digit=E1ln=EC?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?iso-8859-2?Q?_=E8=E1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDlBq9ntdYP8FOsoIRAgprAJ9YmnsGitG9YF5Ee8pl42hRm0VBcACgnH0K 500DDTx9+7JADJsTghPH2nI= =PANS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2/LIthuxMDswjHiMJI4i--