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Date:      Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:54:19 +0300
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_opie pam_opie.c
Message-ID:  <20020119105418.GA7683@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <200201191047.g0JAl8t20334@grimreaper.grondar.org>
References:  <200201191009.g0JA95b91076@freefall.freebsd.org> <200201191047.g0JAl8t20334@grimreaper.grondar.org>

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On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 10:47:08 +0000, Mark Murray wrote:
> > ache        2002/01/19 02:09:05 PST
> > 
> >   Modified files:
> >     lib/libpam/modules/pam_opie pam_opie.c 
> >   Log:
> >   If user not exist in OPIE system, return failure immediately instead
> >   of producing fake prompts with random numbers which can be detected by
> >   potential intruder in two tries and totally confuse non-OPIE users.
> 
> I object to this. The better way is to produce fake but (semi-) constant
> challenge.

It is impossible.

1) How do you plan to identify intruder to keep choosed semi-constance for
him?

2) S/Key and OPIE was designed to not interfere normal users processing,
only incorrectly written applications use those fake promts. Fake promtps
may cause not user confusion only but seriosly affects protocols which not
expect them.


-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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