From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 17 14:13:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07907 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07900 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA62758; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:12:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:12:37 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: Chris Tubutis cc: Karl Pielorz , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heavy on the Verbosity (was) Re: Annoying messages on startup.. In-Reply-To: <36A25867.5EF5E5CE@tci.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Chris Tubutis wrote: > > Coming from someone who's spent the best part of last week trying to diagnose > > various hardware & software problems on NT & Win'95 machines (to almost no > > avail), I'd appreciate as much verbosity being left _in_ the kernel & FreeBSD > > as possible... I'm fed up with seeing "Unknown error", or "Unknown errors > > occured" or "Service Failed" and the like on competitor / other products... > > Make them only 'if verbose' if you need to - just don't lose them > > alltogether!... :) > > This is a very good point, something that I strongly agree with. As hard > as I try not to, I find myself having to deal with products from Redmond > while at work. Yeah, stuff like "Error connecting to database" tells me > absolutely nothing and is frustrating as all Hell. I think most of us have been there as some point and I totally agree. It's just that in this case we're getting more than we want at those times when we don't need it. > Maybe a way to toggle the verbosity to suit individual > preferences would be a good way to go? It is keyed to bootverbose, but `or'ed with 1. Perhaps a sysctl(8) knob, kern.verbosity, is worth thinking about. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message