From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 11:41:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC71065670 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E52908FC0C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 11:41:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.199] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 11:41:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 11:41:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 120665.51232.bm@omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 1296 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2011 11:40:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307878859; bh=XAmAnLcB45xW4Uj6XRfo+aEIs0o95QD1U7VS6nzlHEQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ASk7ijYuobn4bb74avMFTIDtnc5SY/7/Jxw4hR8pCfRUMm35K/sfu7IYVP4saNl/upmuGEG3qvFA57jxtlkVceydZ5c4x/iIzC4CoaDyEWZ+7vERf4DRq+RophgqvtliRXT4qDOx+o/qKDd7acTuetGMT2IPUy5D91895eW7FPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O55deiFC7aPrRPNRkdsNvca4BU0mIqUjL4LLAy0RjvslxiLlgGxzqtEXfRWOhiRlLWosPjq03kP0EfvfLLM2/BOL/XHZ1rboUtrsQ2QkNaxerPK3x/+J+yZ04X7cPBDRvNAeVhqWlMd0Ab/CeZ4S2askq5u2xzBPmdE1fVRdSZQ=; Message-ID: <646739.74431.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mR6V2sAVM1kf.dM.owMjYDDJ_3dbKLNqCyQwxPmapGqQb7a rX4kaRFZ1t0w36Ml458xNfce2MFKXtdUoeleuDgpNo6wRLkepp.LjYeeQ.8r W8tpJj1UaF2fptDpk9d6YbOif3wGjQS0M9QTpI4QLrxjSOa9o9Chvgf70EXQ Ek3Y059Y3MXJTkMq_POa6s5ZIaLphpaN8hNuYk1Ib6Y0LnViID8fUsoSVhy1 akoN3OpSRQuIPF0zhK2F4ujZvETP83MHYFRon1BBK62OOBY2Y8GmkCASyEUS IX_vdgiNpsTwR3eG8VM2ytxdlne_4YG9ZYSiEulPZGwe0HHQtdaSdmnNcoKx N1n3_CEMAKv2d7J24ltB3W5tZ2VVnnP9V0lUCDQ_lg0nvCSRaSc.GLVc- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:40:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <01E3114E-02B1-44A2-A6B6-E0AE93A95E9A@earthlink.net> <6B25F4E32F59B195428730A7@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: FreeBSD Questions , John or Judy Hixson In-Reply-To: <6B25F4E32F59B195428730A7@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:41:01 -0000 =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Daniel Staal = =0ATo: John or Judy Hixson ; =0Afreebsd-questions= @freebsd.org=0ASent: Fri, June 10, 2011 8:24:23 PM=0ASubject: Re: Need Help= Installing and Configuring Xorg=0A=0A--As of June 10, 2011 4:26:27 PM -070= 0, John or Judy Hixson is alleged to have =0Asaid:=0A=0A> I'm having troubl= e getting Xorg to run on my just recently installed=0A> FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE= (i386) system. I'm trying to follow the procedures in=0A> Sections 5.3 and = 5.4 of the Handbook and can't seem to get "startx" to=0A> fire up; I get a = black screen when I try. Here's what I've done so far:=0A=0A--As for the re= st, it is mine.=0A=0AWeird question: Have you installed xterm yet?=A0 Witho= ut a window manager =0Aconfigured, startx will try to open X with a single = xterm window.=A0 (At least, as =0Ainstalled from ports, I believe.)=A0 I'm = not sure what it would do if it couldn't =0Afind xterm, but a blank black s= creen sounds possible...=0A=0AIf I'm right, Xorg is _running,_ you just hav= en't started any programs in it.=A0 =0AWhich you might be able to see if yo= u ssh'd into the box.=A0 If so, you could kill =0AXorg and get your termina= l back on your standard terminal.=0A=0ADaniel T. Staal=0A=0A---------------= ------------------------------------------------=0AThis email copyright the= author.=A0 Unless otherwise noted, you=0Aare expressly allowed to retransm= it, quote, or otherwise use=0Athe contents for non-commercial purposes.=A0 = This copyright will=0Aexpire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 yea= rs,=0Awhichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of=0Alocal cop= yright law.=0A-------------------------------------------------------------= --=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@fr= eebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-= questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe= @freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0AI have installed and configured Xorg many times on se= veral different machines. =0AWhen it installs it comes with twm (Trivial Wi= ndow Manager) which is the =0Adefault, no frills window manager. It should = have installed with the Xorg port. =0AIf you installed via pkg_add I can't = say for sure that tvw installs by default, =0Abut using the ports it will. = Without a window manager, you will see nothing but =0Aa black graphics scre= en when you run "startx".=0A=0AThere are loads of other windows managers an= d choices for desktop. I am a big =0Abeliever in the KISS method and prefer= not to add in all the overhead that comes =0Awith KDE or GNOME and I just = use tvm. I can open any application and it looks =0Afine, I can open severa= l Xterm windows with it and spread them across my dual =0Amonitor setup. It= just works for me but I'm sure others will toot their horns =0Afor KDE and= GNOME, etc...