From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 2 8:49:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (209-176-244-82.inil.com [209.176.244.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888D514EB0 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:49:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.3/8.8.2) id KAA23046; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:49:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20000102104932.B23036@Denninger.Net> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:49:32 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-) References: <20000102103732.A23004@Denninger.Net> <8598.946831344@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <8598.946831344@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42:24PM +0100 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That sucks severely - NONE of the common units have the PPS output?! Barf. Oh well. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to do exactly that! On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42:24PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20000102103732.A23004@Denninger.Net>, Karl Denninger writes: > >On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:55:44PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> > >> >BTW, speaking of which, does anyone know of a reasonably-cheap GPS receiver > >> >that (1) has an external-able antenna that will work with somewhere between > >> >50 and 100 feet of lead, and (2) has the appropriate pps outputs and such > >> >so it can be used for this? > >> > >> I will (as always) recommend the Motorola Oncore UT+. If you buy it > >> from syngergy-gps it comes mounted in their nice box and the cable > >> has the PPS on DCD and is ready to plug into a serial port. I paid > >> $605.73 for the one I'm delivering to the Danish Internet eXchange > >> point, that included antenna and 15m of cable. > > > >That's EXPENSIVE. > > > >Common handheld GPS units with NEMA outputs on them are well under $200 > >these days! > > Common handheld GPS units are pointless as NTP refclocks because they > lack (a decent) PPS output. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message