From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Dec 2 08:34:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6829A341A1; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A039A163F; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [192.168.1.22] (253.Red-83-32-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.32.1.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE4843C0D; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 02:34:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: svn commit: r402813 - head/misc/astrolog To: Andrey Chernov , marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201512020629.tB26TbDb060296@repo.freebsd.org> <565E9DFA.6050502@marino.st> <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org From: John Marino Message-ID: <565EAD1E.8080805@marino.st> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:34:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 08:34:51 -0000 On 12/2/2015 9:26 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 02.12.2015 10:30, John Marino wrote: >> On 12/2/2015 7:29 AM, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >>> Author: ache >>> Date: Wed Dec 2 06:29:36 2015 >>> New Revision: 402813 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/402813 >>> >>> Log: >>> Unbreak port, update to the latest version of Swiss Ephemeris >>> (It does not require any patching, who mark the port BROKEN >>> can easily do it by yourself) >> >> This is an unfair comment. >> The *distfile* changed. That implies a poudriere run. >> THe person marking BROKEN often does it in a batch of a several ports >> that have starting failing in a bulk run. They aren't looking at *any* >> of them and rely on the maintainer or a user that cares to figure out >> what happened. >> >> In this case, it's as much work as you can ask without having to >> generate patches, so I don't agree with the second half of the comment >> AT ALL. >> > > Well, this procedure makes unmaintained ports (like this one) doomed to > die even on slightest change (distfile moving to other site etc). > According to commit log I am a user that cares to figure out (and I > don't want to be maintainer), but the person who marks is BROKEN is not > bothered to investigate. And? There are two roles here: 1) Marking the port broken 2) Unbreaking the port. You are implying the person that does role #1 is obligated to do role #2, even if he/she is in the process of marking 40 ports broken. In the best case, even if role #1 is only breaking 1 port, why do you think they are obligated to anything other than the trivial fix. IMO ports@freeBSD.org means "unmaintained", not "collectively maintained though obligation". I know others believe in the latter, but I have plently of agreement with the former. The two roles are not connected and role #1 has no obligation to role #2. John