From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 15:03:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7889116A505 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCB813C469 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUH00DKNJ5DG301@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0BF3Cfd000612; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:03:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:03:12 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20080111145107.GA82524@nagual.pp.ru> To: Andrey Chernov , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Dominic Fandrey Message-id: <47878530.9070707@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <47873174.4040802@gmail.com> <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080111092015.GA17702@freebie.xs4all.nl> <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com> <863at4fx1a.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080111122635.GA80432@nagual.pp.ru> <478768CA.2000401@gmail.com> <20080111145107.GA82524@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:03:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 08:02:02AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> Is Aryeh funded by Microsoft?>> hat off> :) >> There are more direct ways to ruin FOSS then what I am >> purposing... > > Interesting remark, are you confessing to? :) not exactly but I am confessing to a belief that FOSS as in free beer can never work long term, *BUT* traditional closed source solutions are even worse. > As fall of the USSR proves, indirect ways are much more powerfull, > than direct ones (like declaring war, etc.) Fanatics (even those purposing middle ground solutions) always fall into this trap (my self included)... now that being said only a fanatic would at least take an honest look at any possible method. > > To speak seriously, any optional addition is confusing and > misdirecting bla-bla (considering the possibility to ignore it) and > any non-optional one immediatelly makes strong legal problems for > users. > If you had read the whole thread I never made any mention that it should be required just that it be allowed for. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools. http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. "Free software != Free beer" Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHh4UwjRvRjGmHRgQRAvhrAKCvqpRFFAYw3hG1ZRljl4c4uxdppQCcCC29 0Iv6tbyN63Gc2StQIvNB9DQ= =j1Nm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----