From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:45:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C382416A406 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx24.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DA4B13C465 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 31004 invoked by uid 399); 17 May 2007 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2007 20:18:53 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <464CB8AB.6050404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:18:51 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <20070512153532.GQ21795@elvis.mu.org> <63984.1178992555@critter.freebsd.dk> <20070513215442.GZ21795@elvis.mu.org> <46478C9A.9050807@fer.hr> <86lkfryjds.fsf@dwp.des.no> <46482AD2.7010700@fer.hr> In-Reply-To: <46482AD2.7010700@fer.hr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS DOWN X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:45:35 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> It is wrong of the PHP authors to assume that all the world is GNU / >> Linux. > > Yes. > >> I see no reason not vindicate their mistakes. > > I do: these days I need to heavily justify using FreeBSD instead of > Linux, and "the applications you want to run don't actually work on > FreeBSD" is not a nice thing to say. It depends on your audience. > I feel that nowadays it's not a contest in popularity, it's damage > control phase. Another way to look at this is that a good portion of the existing FreeBSD userbase relies on our higher standards for things like this, and to break faith with them would be a bad thing. We are not interested in making FreeBSD more popular as a primary goal, we're interested in making it better as a primary goal, which will end up making it more popular. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection