From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 09:56:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF33A269 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18C51DD0 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BF63EB6A; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1O9u5am033613; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:05 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Joe Holden Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent In-reply-to: <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:05 +0000 Message-ID: <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:56:12 -0000 In message <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma >>> (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation >>> so here they are. >> I'd argue, for example, that postfix can be also easily configured and can >> be made to not listen on port 25 for local mail delivery, while at the same >> time it is a fully-functional MTA that could replace sendmail altogether. >The trend towards having sensible lightweight things in the base is a >good thing IMO. Fully agree. To the extent we can manage it, we should have minimal client-focused tools for things like DNS, SMTP and NTP in the tree and make it trivial for people to install the fully featured server version of their choice from ports. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.