Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 10:52:59 +0000 From: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: HTML and non-text attachments (was: Thank you for the kind and helpful community) Message-ID: <4731a4f2-43a7-71b3-6f0c-4e1a2123295a@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au> References: <NGDnRBE--3-9@tutanota.com> <405b675d-6385-63b8-c8d9-f4e4603cbd09@freebsd.org> <BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 08/11/2022 05:22, Ian Smith wrote:<=
br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au">
<pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">On 8 November 2022 10:06:49 =
am AEDT, Graham Perrin <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:=
grahamperrin@freebsd.org"><grahamperrin@freebsd.org></a> wrote:
> On 06/11/2022 21:16, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"=
mailto:iio7@tutanota.com">iio7@tutanota.com</a> wrote:
> > I just want to say thank you to the FreeBSD core team, the Fre=
eBSD
> > developers, and the FreeBSD community in general for everyone'=
s
> patience
> > and for providing a friendly, helpful and inviting community. =
It is
> > hard to find elsewhere.
[trim, and cc: hackers@ removed]
> Thank you.
>=20
> For reference, here's an email that probably failed to reach the=20
> addressee =E2=80=93 it was neither returned to sender, nor archived=
:=20
> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org=
/GrahamPerrin/email?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&target=3DMessage=
-ID+a2b48731-62c0-d2e6-1369-de420d015fb6.eml"><https://wiki.freebsd.or=
g/GrahamPerrin/email?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&target=3DMessag=
e-ID+a2b48731-62c0-d2e6-1369-de420d015fb6.eml></a>
>=20
> (message/rfc822, .eml from Thunderbird).
As this list drops HTML </pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
Not exactly. <br>
</p>
<p>Quoting Baptiste Daroussin (<a
href=3D"https://www.freebsd.org/administration/#t-postmaster">Pos=
tmaster
Team</a>): "<i>=E2=80=A6 the mailing list engine will reject html=
only
email, html is fine as long at it is created with text/plain
alternative. =E2=80=A6</i>". <br>
</p>
<p>A screenshot of this e-mail, before sending:
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graha=
mPerrin/email?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&target=3D2022-11-12+10=
=2E47+freebsd-questions.png"><https://wiki.freebsd.org/GrahamPerrin/em=
ail?action=3DAttachFile&do=3Dget&target=3D2022-11-12+10.47+freebs=
d-questions.png></a>.
<br>
<br>
</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au">
<pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">and non-text attachments lik=
e your .png, </pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
freebsd-questions does accept non-text attachments such as JPEG
and PNG. <br>
</p>
<p>Please see, for example, <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://markmail.org/download.xqy?id=3D4seqjbjwu6rzhvvo&numbe=
r=3D1">photo_2021-10-06_10-36-41.jpg</a>
(image/jpeg, Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64) within <a
moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2021-October=
/000011.txt">the
original</a> of
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://lists.freebsd.org/arch=
ives/freebsd-questions/2021-October/000011.html"><https://lists.freebs=
d.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2021-October/000011.html></a>.
<br>
</p>
<p>A more recent example: the base64-encoded image/png that's
invisible at
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://lists.freebsd.org/arch=
ives/freebsd-questions/2022-October/001986.html"><https://lists.freebs=
d.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-October/001986.html></a>
is visible at
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"http://markmail.org/mess=
age/h5htrf2lolh5o52m"><http://markmail.org/message/h5htrf2lolh5o52m>=
;</a>. <br>
<br>
</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au">
<pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">sending to desired recipient=
s cc: questions - as you did on this one - would have at least reached th=
em?
Does hackers@ publish and/or archive graphic attachments?</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><br>
See for example
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"http://markmail.org/mess=
age/vxxhadn6j7lrfa46"><http://markmail.org/message/vxxhadn6j7lrfa46>=
;</a> and the first
reply. Both with PNG attachments, User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67
2015-01-07); <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://alpineapp.email/">Alpine</a>. <br>
</p>
<p>Corresponding
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://lists.freebsd.org/pipe=
rmail/freebsd-hackers/2019-December/055358.html"><https://lists.freebs=
d.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2019-December/055358.html></a>
included a visible hint that there exists a PNG.
application/octet-stream, so (for example) whilst the resulting
attachment.obj is not visible as a PNG in Firefox, it can be
opened with Okular, GIMP and so on. <br>
<br>
</p>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:BB97CFA6-C6CF-473D-A128-93D6894E9735@nimnet.asn.au">
<pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Your message (the .eml) refe=
rred to above did have a base64 text part.=20
Perhaps it would be better if the list software returned non-text parts, =
though it would get busy with HTML?
ISTR Mailman used to mention but then ignore non-plaintext parts. Still m=
issing Mailman functionality, esp. re archiving; I used to browse various=
other lists quite often.
HTH, Ian
</pre>
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