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Date:      Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:32:54 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@puchar.net>
To:        Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Ars Technica article on FreeBSD new user experience
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.2004101729240.39233@puchar.net>
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Not really interesting to turn good OS to runtime environment for point 
and click crap.

Fortunately it is still possible to use graphical mode with something more 
normal. like full screen programs and switching between then with 
keypresses.

All with good old fvwm2. my 20 year old fvwm2 config survived linux, 
netbsd, then (longest) FreeBSD mostly unchanged.

The sad part is that we need Xorg at all.

Why unix idea of console espace sequences didn't evolve properly to 
support all graphics?

X11 is a disaster from the start, turned to even worse disaster after.
Not FreeBSD fault of course



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