From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 10:54:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69EE16A473 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@riscworks.net) Received: from relay.riscworks.net (v32231.1blu.de [88.84.154.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CEE13C4DB for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@riscworks.net) Received: from zoidberg.riscworks.net (f054173084.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.173.84]) by relay.riscworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0916F136E0002; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:54:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from G4.local (unknown [192.168.100.101]) by zoidberg.riscworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6FE18F2; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:54:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47874AFE.5000309@riscworks.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:54:54 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBTY2jCmm9lbGVy?= Organization: RISCworks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <3545.1200041730@critter.freebsd.dk> <47873174.4040802@gmail.com> <47873B06.9010603@riscworks.net> <4787457C.4050209@gmail.com> <47874672.10804@riscworks.net> <47874891.6050802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47874891.6050802@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:54:56 -0000 thus Aryeh M. Friedman spake: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Timo Schšoeler wrote: >> thus Aryeh M. Friedman spake: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>>> The license is *perfect* and works for decades now. I'm pretty >>>> sure people know when they can 'effort' it to contribute to an >>>> OSS prject like FreeBSD. If they have time to do so and the >>>> will to do so, they will do it. If not, then they won't do it. >>>> >>>> The license is not responsible for coders' lives in a way to >>>> make sure they can 'live' (rent an appartment, eat, drink, >>>> whatever). >>>> >>>> Furthermore: Even the GPL does not regulate this. >>>> >>>> (Total waste of time...) >>> Accept to direct most of this to the hopefully newly created >>> -legal@ list >> I doubt there will be such a list. Maybe they should just create a >> /dev/null-likeee list called flames@ ? > > See the actual purposal (not mine) and you see there are perfectly > legit reasons for such a list that have nothing to do with this thread >>> just let me say forcing people to pick between morals and money >>> has never been a good option. >> True, as money is on the place in the universe where morals is at >> maximum distance to. > > Much of current thinking in economics actually says they are in fact > flip sides of the same coin. A forth coming book (which I am not > allowed to cite for an other few months due to a NDA) take direct aim > at the above false paradox. It is the thesis of the book that almost > all bad aspects of the modern macro world are due to incomplete > understandings of the interplay between them. Economics is, in contrast to as what it is sold as, _no_ science. It's total crap. Far away from logic, far away from humanism, far away from being useable in whatever way. Must be a ultra-important book, if it's so secret. Wow. The interplay is just plain fucking simple: There are, for decades now, 100,000 people dying of hunger each and every single day, *although* there's enough being produced to feed double the amount of people living on this planet: Mankind could feed *twelve billion* people. But nobody of those 'in power' wants to do it. There's war spread all over the world by the world's most democratic country, in order to get geopolitical advantages and *oil*. Hundrets of thousands of people dying in these wars. Why is that? It's main purpose is to keep *your* V8 running and *you* able to buy an iPhone. This is in order that *you* *don't* start *thinking*. But this is now totally OT; please feel free to send me private email, I like this kind of discussion as I'm very interested and active in policital things. Please do *NOT* cc: freebsd-current@. Thanks, Timo > - -- > Aryeh M. Friedman