From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Mon Dec 11 15:08:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E9DE94503; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28FA069428; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vBBF8SQk076823 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:08:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua vBBF8SQk076823 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id vBBF8Rdx076820; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:08:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:08:27 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: Conrad Meyer , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r326758 - in head/sys/i386: conf include Message-ID: <20171211150827.GJ2272@kib.kiev.ua> References: <201712110432.vBB4WbnE021090@repo.freebsd.org> <20171211091943.GF2272@kib.kiev.ua> <5A2E5D44.9030904@grosbein.net> <20171211105242.GH2272@kib.kiev.ua> <5A2E6608.5090205@grosbein.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5A2E6608.5090205@grosbein.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FROM,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tom.home X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:08:36 -0000 On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 06:03:36PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > I do not try to contradict other usage patterns. In fact, I'm eager to know > a practical example of such pattern: a task, an application, anything real? Plain workstation use, like X11+browser+editor+some other programs easily allocates 1000+ threads. It was still possible to use 32bit x86 for that, of course in max memory config without PAE, and without ZFS. Add some load that involves network, for instance torrent client, to establish the pressure on KVA. I am almost sure that users would get troubles now. > > I already know how to bring FreeBSD down to its kneels using stress tests > but that's not what I'm looking for in this case of kstack_pages. > Stress test is useful due to its canary nature.