From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 4 13:50:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7334B37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DFD43FA7 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pippo@bellnet.ca) Received: from pippo.bellnet.ca ([65.94.99.252]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030204215015.IMDI11926.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@pippo.bellnet.ca>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:50:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204163759.00ba29f0@pop51.bellnet.ca> X-Sender: lesp3999@pop51.bellnet.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:49:42 -0500 To: James Earl From: pippo@bellnet.ca Subject: Re: portupgrading problems Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20030204093030.6ebaba44.mtntrip@telus.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030204093227.00b80788@mail.host45.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:30 AM 2/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: >On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:00:23 -0500 >pippo@bellnet.ca wrote: > > > Some time ago I chose FreeBSD over all other *nix systems because I found > > the system better managed, easier to administrate, better supported and > > simpler to update and upgrade both the OS and the programs - especially > > through portupgrade. > > Several times I have encountered glitches in the update process; some I > > managed to figure out what the problem was, some other I just had to wait > > until the port was corrected then re-cvsup and portupgrade. This, on 2 > > similar FBSD v.4.7 installations. > > > > Currently I have encountered problems with updating KDE3 (because > kdegames3 > > had some sort of problem - I don't have time for the games anyway, but > this > > messes up the update - and the audio/arts program also had problems) and > > Openoffice 1.02. > > Open office seems to be a particular case as it requires 4Gb of space for > > installation on *nix! I cannot think of another program that seems to > be so > > bloated for installation. Is there an insurmountable problem here? I did > > find a port for FBSD to install the Ooo v.1.0.1 but now to update - > whammo! > > It seems to me that it is rare that one needs the huge capacity disks that > > seem so current - I have 1 10gb and 1 34Gb raid array, but they are used > > for different OS's and for storage. It is impractical to have to > > re-organize your entire system just for 1 program. :(( > > > > If the port is faulty and is uploaded to the port site, then the > downloaded > > port sits in the machine and then you have to figure out what went wrong. > > What is annoying is the enormous time it take to reinstall stuff like KDE3 > > and Open office only to find that the installation has failed and > sometimes > > the old installarion is screwed up... Fortunately, I have not committed to > > using FBSD and the *nix program exclusively as, so far, I have found that > > there are still nasty kinks in the gears that take away too much time from > > creative productivity for maintenance > > > > Can someone explain the best way to deal with the updating process? How to > > minimize updating problems? > > Thanks in advance, > > PJ > >This is what I have found to work for me... For OpenOffice.org, I don't >even bother building the monster. It's just not worth it... instead I >download the pre-compiled package from http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ >. I haven't had any problems with these packages, and they are usually >kept right up-to-date. thanks for the link; I had lost it in time :(( >As for KDE3. I don't use it, but I use GNOME2 sometimes. I personally >don't bother using the "meta-port" (x11/gnome2 and x11/kde3), as it >installs more than I ever need or want (like games). > >My recommendation would be to install only what you want -- and the >dependencies of course :) Good point; I guess I'm just too lazy to make the selections.... just let the puter do the work while I sleep. :)) Thanks, PJ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message