From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Apr 10 9:11:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036114E6E; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA77648; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:05:32 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:05:32 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea To: Glenn Johnson Cc: The Hermit Hacker , Brian Handy , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , obrien@NUXI.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. Message-ID: <19990410180531.E6250@shale.csir.co.za> References: <19990409155258.A3791@shale.csir.co.za> <19990409112852.A14614@symbion.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990409112852.A14614@symbion.srrc.usda.gov>; from Glenn Johnson on Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 11:28:52AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 11:28:52AM -0500, Glenn Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 03:52:58PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote: > > I always thought the criteria for inclusion of things into the base > > system was: > > > > 1. Needed for 'make world'; > > 2. Needed to get a basic functioning server up and running; > > 3. Something usefull only within FreeBSD (like the kernel ;), or > > 4. Can't be effectively built outside of /usr/src. > > > > If {g77|f77} can be built as a port, using the system EGCS, then to > > port's it goes. Otherwise why don't we include the Top 20 ports, or > > maybe the Top 25, or... > > First off, g77 is not your typical port. The build of g77 depends on > having the source to gcc on your system. The last time I checked, > installing the source was optional. The reason the current port of g77 > is marked broken is because of this. See (4) above. Adding it to /usr/src, with a NO_FORTRAN option, would get my vote. > Future: Now it may be true that newer versions of g77 may not build > against whatever version of egcs we have but at least we would be > guaranteed of having a functional Fortran compiler. lang/g77-devel? Depends on lang/egcs-devel? > Many people don't seem to understand that FreeBSD can be used for > workstations as well as servers and Fortran is *essential* on a > scientific/engineering workstation. I don't doubt that there are more > people using FreeBSD as a server but that doesn't mean that workstation > users should be denied an essential tool because it takes up a few > hundred kilobytes. I'm a civil engineer, specialising in data analysis... Regards, -Jeremy -- | "I could be anything I wanted to, but one things true --+-- Never gonna be as big as Jesus, never gonna hold the world in my hand | Never gonna be as big as Jesus, never gonna build a promised land | But that's, that's all right, OK with me..." -Audio Adrenaline To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message