From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 3 12: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF8037B422 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 12:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f43J5i346658; Thu, 3 May 2001 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jessemonroy@email.com, jessem@livecam.com Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] In-Reply-To: <200105031853.LAA12484@dnull.com> References: <20010503112139V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <200105031853.LAA12484@dnull.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010503120544M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:05:44 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 50 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > charter-smarter... the point is everyone within the FreeBSD community > should be aware of this situation. You don't get to make that call, Jesus. The charters are there for a reason, most notably the fact that some people (hi) seem to think that the rules only apply if they don't personally feel a really strong need to break them. That's not what rules are about and it's specifically to curb the tendency towards "individualistic interpretation" that they exist. Bad Jesus, no biscuit for this round. > Per Windriver, the announcement on April 4, 2001 clearly > states in the second headline, "Agreement Ensures Continued > Support of Open Source FreeBSD Project." In plain english, > this should mean we can continue to develop as we have > in the past and when Windriver has a course change we > will listen. Well, WindRiver has no "course changes" in mind at this point and aren't even actively engaged yet. Go talk to any of the BSDi employees in engineering and you'll find that all of them STILL WORK FOR BSDi and that the deal is still very much "in progress" at this time. What you read back in early April was a press release stating an INTENT to do all of these things, and if you were at all familiar with the bigger deals like this one, you'd know that months can often pass between the time where everyone states an intention to do something and when the lawyers finally finish looking through all the paperwork and sign off on actually doing it. Only someone very naive' about how businesses work would actually expect that a full take-over has occurred in less than a month and that we're all now marching to the beat of a different drummer. Ha! That's also why at least 99% of the government conspiracy theories don't hold water either, though I hate to disappoint you on this too, since they presuppose a highly efficient and skilled government at work when in fact no such thing currently exists on this planet. > Then again as I BCC Lynne for the last time on this subject, > I must consider she is right. Because I have not heard this *just* > from her, "the aging BSD mafia...prefer to sit in their towers > reliving past intrigues and battles. The have become anachronism > in an Internet World." Tell Lynne to come out of hiding someday and perhaps she can start talking with more credibility about "sitting around in towers reliving past intrigues and battles." :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message