From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 27 9: 9:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cnidaria.digitalized.com (cr1000811-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.39.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD9A14D56 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:09:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edwardk@digitalized.com) Received: from nyctereutes.digitalized.com (nyctereutes.digitalized.com [172.16.128.201]) by cnidaria.digitalized.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9EF9F917; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by nyctereutes.digitalized.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F90FF619E; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:09:16 -0500 (EST) To: "Majid Almassari" Cc: "Danny" , "W Gerald Hicks" , Subject: Re: FreeBSD certification References: <200001260233.SAA13779@mindspring.com> <00b301bf67cc$0e999a00$1791ddd1@balfourplace.com> From: Edward Kovarski Date: 27 Jan 2000 12:09:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Majid Almassari"'s message of "Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:07:30 -0800" Message-ID: <87iu0f30hw.fsf@nyctereutes.digitalized.com> Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) X-Face: 0F|^.]?ziw/jy%(7m;n/u:I1eL7IY46:#oi~/v:J==u,49V+u>mO&NsMkpy9rab{cAtJgX>(vO%z!FY/>eq-jky=)L7waW]A@Z)p*G>2Y4<(gp__\l$ws%1a)BEW$U#4D\ALU(cr.s0Y#y/s}ht\}BChwO^!8.t=>n{|"okCXhM#w$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Majid Almassari writes: > > >From: W Gerald Hicks > > I know quite a few rather clueless people holding multiple > > certifications; they aren't necessarily any assurance that > > someone knows what they are doing. > > True, but on the other side of the house you got a number of seasoned what > so called Network Engineers with xx years of experience lack that solid > analytical systematic approach of problem solving as soon something deviates > from the standard routine come and see their clueless faces! you will see > lack of systematic approach of problem solving thereof. Analytical approach > to Problem solving comes from both education and experience, not from one or > the other only. In the contrary you got paper certificate people who can > create more harm then good after graduating from what is called Boot Camp > Certification they think they know it all! Don't get me wrong I'm not saying > that every Boot Camp Graduate is a paper certified this technique is useful > for the. experienced, but not otherwise in my opinion. So Certification is a > double edged knife depending how you use it but usually beneficial if > combined with experience. You are assuming however that an educational process is going to instill the required analytical skills. Many are quite happy being spoon-fed information which they then regurgitate. Potential candidates should not be judged solely on their certifications nor their experiences as either can be greatly exaggerated. Many resumes tend to be great works of fiction. The actual interview can reveal a great deal about their personality, drive, sociability and knowledge. This is why it is just as important to ensure that you put the right people in charge of hiring others. The brightest and smartest might not always fit into the puzzle when they are expected to work in unison as a team. A lot of friction can be caused by not looking at the big picture. Perhaps instead of concentrating on specifics, like FreeBSD, it would be best to consider a more open approach such as a BSD Unix certification which would entail all flavours. /e To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message