From owner-cvs-all Wed Apr 10 19:34:26 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA84E37B431; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3B2Y6i05739; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:34:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3B2Y5c40176; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:34:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020410.203402.133041092.imp@village.org> To: grog@FreeBSD.org Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Feature removal without replacement From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020411114203.H54120@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020411102253.C8400@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020410.194114.77337477.imp@village.org> <20020411114203.H54120@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020411114203.H54120@wantadilla.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: : > Indirectly, this also breaks USERCONFIG : : This is not strong enough. Plenty of things got broken and then fixed : again in the last two years. Yes, but when they do they got documented. Note that no such documentation exists for USERCONFIG. It has been an ex parrot for a long time and there's no documentation saying that it has been fixed. If you don't like it, write something better. : In this particular case, we have the alternatives: : : 1. We kill UserConfig and document it to the level we have already, : causing some confusion. : 2. We kill UserConfig and document it well. : 3. We find somebody to replace it. 4. Expend our energies on getting PCI autoconfig working on machines whose BIOS doesn't allocate resources. 5. Get CardBus working more reliabily. 6. Get ACPI fully integrated into the tree. These are *MUCH* more important than userconfig, and certainly much more worth getting people to help out with than userconfig. IMHO. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message