From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 25 15:52:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pfa0frpk001.panasonicfa.com (unknown [38.248.119.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B80237B4CF for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.panasonicfa.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <054F7DAA9E54D311AD090008C74CE9BD01766CE2@exchange.panasonicfa.com> From: "Zaitsau, Andrei" To: 'ALAOUI EL HASSANI ALI' <961BE653994@stud.alakhawayn.ma> Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" , "'djohnson@acuson.com'" , "'vcardona@home.com'" , "'kdavey@gus33.homeip.net'" Subject: RE: FW: My Experience With FreeBSD Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:52:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay.. I hate doing this again. But what makes the Computer manufacturers not to ship computers with preinstalled FreeBSD on it, it has no licenses, it's free, it's very robust and reliable OS. They don't have to waste money on commercial OS then... One more time, people won't buy those computers then, because FreeBSD will be too complicated to them. Thanks. Andrei. -----Original Message----- From: ALAOUI EL HASSANI ALI [mailto:961BE653994@stud.alakhawayn.ma] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:38 PM To: Keith Davey Cc: David Johnson; Victor R. Cardona; Zaitsau, Andrei; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: My Experience With FreeBSD I agree with you Keith. On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Keith Davey wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, David Johnson wrote: > > > "Victor R. Cardona" wrote: > > > > > > Doug, I would not aim Microsoft also. This is business. And nothing evil. > > > > Personally I do not like Microsoft products, they are unstable. But no one > > > > makes you to use them. Bill Gates did not come to people with automatic gun > > > > and tell them: "Hey Folk, buy Microsoft Products, or I will shoot you !". > > > > It's people who made Microsoft gigantic corporation. No one makes you to buy > > > > products, if you don't like it- do not buy it and do not use it. Easy as > > > > 1,2,3. > > > > > > Try buying a new computer without Windows. Granted it is a lot easier > > > now then it once was, but still most off the shelf PCs come with > > > Microsoft software. > > > > Far be it for me to defend Microsoft, but I seriously doubt that they > > actually held a gun to the head to Dell, Packard Bell, IBM, Acer, et al, > > forcing them to ship their products with Windows. It does no good > > calling Microsoft evil when it's the computer manufacturer that sells > > the "take it or leave it" systems. > > > > David > > > > That is not actualy acurate. No I doubt a gun, but a price tag is almost > as bad. It was (still is) common practice for MS to offer a busness a > LARGE discount on the OEM licence for Windows to OEMs that agreed to: > > 1. Ship Windows preinstalled > 2. Do not ship any systems with any other OS (originaly this was to > squash OS/2) > > In an industry where a couple hundred dollers makes all the diffents in > making a sale, this method works quite well. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message