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Date:      Tue, 6 Mar 2012 00:35:53 -0500
From:      Brandon Falk <bfalk_bsd@brandonfa.lk>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Graphical Terminal Environment
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I'm actually talking about perhaps getting rid of X11 totally. It's
overkill for what I need. I use dwm right now and I basically want to
create a dwm that doesn't have the massive X11 backend. X11 is well
written, but it's getting outdated and quite large, especially if you only
need terminals and no graphics (and really, I just want to learn, I
understand that I'm 'reinventing the wheel').

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:30 AM, matt <sendtomatt@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 03/05/12 20:39, Brandon Falk wrote:
> > I've been thinking for a while about possibly making an extremely
> > lightweight environment that supports full monitor resolution, custom
> > fonts, and terminals... that's about it.
> >
> > Essentially, an x11 that only supports tiling xterms all over the place.
> I
> > do everything through terminals, and I think it'd be a fun project to
> make
> > something that's only purpose is to make it so you can use your entire
> > screen to its fullest (larger resolutions, smaller fonts, etc). Just a
> > graphical tty.
> >
> > Not sure how stupid this idea sounds (or if it even is already done).
> I've
> > seen graphical terminals that use 1024x768 VESA graphics, but I've never
> > seen one that can tile multiple terminals over say, 4 monitors at 1080p.
> > I'm completely oblivious to how X11 actually gets data to the screen
> > (besides drivers that depend on X11 itself... and this is not stripped
> down
> > X11, it's a 'replacement' for people who don't need a graphical
> > environment, but would appreciate a much more expandable terminal
> > environment), and I'd love to get some advice or maybe even work with a
> > team if someone thinks this idea is good. Seems like it'd be a driver
> > specific thing at the very core of the issue. Do drivers tie in with X11,
> > or do they do what I think they should... draw graphics where commanded
> to
> > (via some universal OpenGL style API, not OpenGL->Xorg->Driver). Perhaps
> > that's how they are... I'm rambling.
> >
> > Tell me if you need any clarifications, as I'm lacking in sleep and
> > tomorrow when I read this it will probably not make any sense.
> >
> > -Brandon
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> Ratpoison is in ports and I think it does what you're asking...aka a
> tiling wm aimed at keyboard control.
> Just use a very minimal xinitrc?
>
> Matt
>
>



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