From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 14:59:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E76116A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Eric.Boutilier@Sun.COM) Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FD843D1F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Eric.Boutilier@Sun.COM) Received: from phys-ita01-1 ([129.153.224.1]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5HExqr4009114 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.ita01-mail1.central.sun.com by ita01-mail1.central.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0II800D01H14KS@ita01-mail1.central.sun.com> (original mail from Eric.Boutilier@Sun.COM) for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:57:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sr-uita01-02 (sr-uita01-02.Central.Sun.COM [129.153.224.6]) by ita01-mail1.central.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0II800IP7HKJVO@ita01-mail1.central.sun.com> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:57:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:57:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Boutilier In-reply-to: <20050615160741.GA55062@dragon.NUXI.org> X-X-Sender: bout@sr-uita01-02 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <200504262010.49509@harrymail> <20050429200029.GC232@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <200506141824.17451@harrymail> <20050614185923.GA12375@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050615054209.L29741@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20050615160741.GA55062@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:57:40 +0000 Subject: Re: groff alternative? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Boutilier List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:59:55 -0000 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 05:47:26AM +0000, Harti Brandt wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > DO>On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:24:07PM +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > DO>> today I read a news article (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/60600) > > DO>> about OpenSolaris beeing released, but is there also the groff alternative > > DO>> included? > > DO>> I'd love to see a lean replacment for our current gnu version. > > DO> > > DO>Before everyone gets all happy thinking we can incorporate all kinds of > > DO>bits from Open Solaris - one should read the license agrement first. > > DO> > > DO> COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE Version 1.0 > > DO> .. > > DO> 3.1. Availability of Source Code. > > DO> Any Covered Software that You distribute or otherwise make available > > DO> in Executable form must also be made available in Source Code form > > DO> and that Source Code form must be distributed only under the terms of > > DO> this License. > > DO> > > DO>this puts the CDDL1.0 in the same boat as GPL'ed code from a BSD stand > > DO>point. > > > > I think that's not entirely correct. > .. > > In this case you don't need to distribute the pieces > > that are covered by the other license. > .. > > You don't need to distribute the new file > > with that function. Of course that new file will not be CDDL covered. > > I never said CDDL was viral. It is like the GPL (LGPL if you like) in > that you must deliver the source with the binary... I think we (Sun) have a loose interpretation of the "made available" phrase (in 3.1 of the CDDL). I don't think it means "must deliver" the source with the binary. For example, I think if you make source available for download on an ftp server that's fine. IANA(Sun)L, so I certainly can't say anything definitive in this regard, but if you do end up wanting to consider incorporating Sun groff or any other Sun open-source code, I or any of my colleagues on the OpenSolaris Team would be happy to check into it for you. Eric Boutilier http://blogs.sun.com/eric_boutilier