From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 17:34:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601716A695 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 17:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-0-0-cust107.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.104.168.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AC043D46 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 17:34:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from fenrirw.private.submonkey.net ([192.168.10.23]) by shrike.submonkey.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FdsZs-000G63-76; Wed, 10 May 2006 18:34:34 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 18:34:24 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: DAve , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New FreeBSD Logo Thread-Index: AcZ0V/p7OOQBIOBLEdq43wAUUSJIlg== In-Reply-To: <4461F57D.502@pixelhammer.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:34:39 -0000 On 10/5/06 15:15, "DAve" wrote: > http://pixelhammer.com/aw_jeez.jpg > > This has gone too far. Searching shows that the FreeBSD questions list > had mention of this over a year ago. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-February/076063. > html > > To be blunt about it, you and everyone else had their chance. My wife, a > designer, knew FreeBSD had a logo contest and she wouldn't know FreeBSD > from a martian if it were not for my T-shirt. > > Anyone could have contributed. But like beta testing, most simply > ignored the request to participate, preferring to wait until someone > else did the hard work and made the tough decisions, then chose to bitch > when the result was not want they wanted. It's apathy. Yea, I'm more > than annoyed and this has been a long time coming. > > How many people actually keep a development server running just to help > open source developers test patches or updates, even when those patches > and updates do not affect them? > > How many donate to the souls who write the tools we use every day? Or do > they just read the maillists when they need help, never offering to help > others, and then get an attitude when the help they request doesn't > arrive? A lot. > > I constantly dog my employers to donate, let me have work time to help > out on lists, purchase the books (Mailscanner and Rails) that help the > developers, keep a development box for testing. They complain even > though they could not compete in the market place had they been required > to purchase licenses for all the software they use. > > The Internet is the industry that open source built, and it has created > a society of hand out junkies who think they should get everything their > way, for free, right now. > > This job isn't fun anymore. Hear, hear. Ceri -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere