From owner-freebsd-current Fri Oct 25 15: 9:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE16D37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1157543E75 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0393.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.138] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185CdF-0007Wp-00; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:08:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3DB9C09B.2190472E@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:07:23 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis Cc: Bakul Shah , Dave Evans , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppd not working on latest current 2002-10-20 References: <20021025113137.A23521@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <200210251841.OAA09782@valiant.cnchost.com> <20021025123522.B23521@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3DB9A281.6FE378F5@mindspring.com> <20021025130909.B7985@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3DB9AD0D.E1C553D7@mindspring.com> <20021025145702.A19646@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:43:57PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > It's a moderately common case in -CURRENT, when kernel structure > > sizes change, and you build a new kernel without new modules, and > > a module refuses to load. It's not technically correct. The old > > message might not be either, but at least it had you looking in > > the right place. > > Current users are supposed to have enough of a clue to figure this out. > Other users are supposed to follow the instructions in UPDATING which > preclude this problem. The version of pppd built with my patch basicly > keeps the only part of the old message was correct (telling you that you > don't have kernel support). The second sentence of the description is > entierly unhelpful since README.bsd isn't anywhere in our source tree. Heh. You might as well just exit, and assume that whoever sees it not running should have enough of a clue to know why it exited. 8-). The only failure mode that gets to the end there is the module not loading, and the error is not indicative of the load failure, was all I was saying. Like I said, it's an OK change (at least if it's OK for ifconfig and mount to load modules, instead of the demand causing the kernel to load them), it's just a bit light on the error message. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message