From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 17 23:36:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D22F106566B; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: from palm.hoeg.nl (mx0.hoeg.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:613:100::211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A738FC17; Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: by palm.hoeg.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B6B71CC46; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:36:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:36:53 +0100 From: Ed Schouten To: Stanislav Sedov Message-ID: <20090117233653.GP1247@hoeg.nl> References: <200901161547.n0GFlZ4C012008@svn.freebsd.org> <20090117142021.92d5a40b.stas@FreeBSD.org> <20090117185801.fcce79e9.stas@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MT9SxUWSsctiw0kG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090117185801.fcce79e9.stas@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:36:55 -0000 --MT9SxUWSsctiw0kG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, First time I'm replying to this thread. I thought I'd better wait to see other people's reactions first. * Stanislav Sedov wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:00:55 +0000 (GMT) > Robert Watson mentioned: > > Many of us would *very* much like to be able to cross-build FreeBSD fro= m both=20 > > Windows and Mac OS X, which would be highly desirable for embedded syst= ems and=20 > > appliance shops. The first obstacle to making that work is that you ca= n't=20 > > even check out our source code correctly on those platforms, so fixing = that is=20 > > an important priority so that the remainder can be worked on. > >=20 >=20 > I think this should be rather worked out in these platforms themselves (e= =2Eg. > by renaming files in the checkout files, and so on) withouth trashing our > tree. While some changes could be understandable, the one I've replied > completely broked heirarchy of jot regressions tests: before the names > of files were coreesponding to the options used in the test, now you can't > say exactly what options used by looking at the filename. This looks like > a gratitous change and regression to me. But this is not how things go in reality. Even if you visit a FreeBSD Developer Summit, you will see a lot of FreeBSD developers using Apple MacBooks. We have vendors that try to check in the source code into ClearCase, etc. We could make very long lists of scenario's where people want to use the source code on non-FreeBSD systems. I think being able to check out our source code virtually anywhere is a good thing. Almost any Open Source project out there can be checked out on multiple operating systems. Imagine what happened if the Mozilla people wouldn't be able to check out their sources on different platforms. Because we develop an operating system ourselves, doesn't mean the rule doesn't apply to us at all. If you think there are multiple solutions; - Just leave it as it is right now. - Change the name to something you like. - Revert the change. I don't really have a strong opinion on the subject. Do whatever you like. --=20 Ed Schouten WWW: http://80386.nl/ --MT9SxUWSsctiw0kG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklya5QACgkQ52SDGA2eCwWg7ACfS2zL204TSsHBBksBdGPStroR 3c8Anjv21RJumDE2Vin/0al+Qh4UK4Zm =hj61 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MT9SxUWSsctiw0kG--