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Date:      Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:31:10 +0400
From:      Andrey Chernov <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav <des@des.no>
Cc:        cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/strfile strfile.c
Message-ID:  <20080808193109.GA70187@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <86myjnerqr.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:16:44PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
> > 1) PRNG is not crypto.
> 
> Stop spewing nonsense.  

Do you have enough education to determene what is nonsense and what is 
not here? For example I have master degree in mathematics.

> PRNG and crypto are inseparable.  

Well separable areas. Various PRNGs can be used in or choosed by crypto. 
But no crypto in PRNG itself.

> In addition,
> as you very well know, this PRNG is actually the keystream generator for
> the RC4 stream cipher.

Yes, I know. And what? Crypto uses math intensively, not PRNGs only, 
hashes etc.

To confirm my words, OpenBSD uses ar4random() almost everywhere in the 
tree, especially after realizing "modulo bias" bug, and use it as "plain" 
PRNG even in simplest non-crypto areas.

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