From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 16:03:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E4C16A469 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AA113C46A for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF4B51CC044; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:03:21 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Norberto Meijome , Yoshihiro Ota , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070627160321.GA1228@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: Norberto Meijome , Yoshihiro Ota , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20070625174045.GA31486@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070625224507.da4e62c2.ota@j.email.ne.jp> <20070626060948.GA20203@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070627153221.1a2cce90@localhost> <20070627061206.GA58111@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070627201905.2102ddc4@localhost> <20070627151123.GA71331@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070627151123.GA71331@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: dumping large partition to USB drive fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:03:22 -0000 On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 05:11:23PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > Well, camcontrol didn't work either. :-( This doesn't come as much of a surprise; camcontrol expects to talk to a native SCSI device (your drive is ATA). atacontrol expects to talk to a native ATA device, but via adXX, not via umass or any other USB interface. I don't know of any software even on Windows (for comparison) that lets you get SMART stats off of an ATA drive in a USB enclosure via USB. > These ones are relatively easy to disassemble, luckily. I have two > enclosures of the same brand, but the older (malfunctioning) one has > both USB 2 and firewire connections, while the newer one just has a USB 2 > connection. See http://www.conceptronic.nl/site/desktopdefault.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=200&Cat=60&grp=6010&ar=450&Prod_ID=1393&Prod=CHD3UL > > I'll disassemble the malfunctioning drive, put it in an old PC and run > smartctl on it. Are there any other tests that might be worthwhile? Try a different manufacturer's product and see if it has the same problem? Many of these external enclosure products are badly (read: cheaply) engineered. Here's a story: A co-worker of mine owned one which kept dropping off the bus randomly, and when it was on the bus, it would occasionally error out during a transfer. Upon opening the enclosure (and violating the warranty), I found that the 2" long ATA33 cable (which was amusing in itself since the device claimed to support ATA100/ATA133 speeds) connecting the drive to the ATA<->USB backplane had a couple copper wires exposed, and two of the wire crimping pins were actually sticking outside of the 40-pin connector. I replaced the 2" ATA33 cable with the shortest ATA66 cable I could find (about 6"), which took some work folding it inside such a small space (and probably not good for the copper!) -- and it worked. All the problems were fixed, and the drive throughput nearly doubled. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |