From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 10:45:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6153316A531 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580513C4BF for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 10:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:65365 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HsyxH-00019o-8N for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 12:29:32 +0200 Received: (qmail 30257 invoked from network); 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 49357 invoked by uid 1001); 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:29:29 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Volker Message-ID: <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Volker , stable@freebsd.org References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.10.135 X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HsyxH-00019o-8N. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1HsyxH-00019o-8N a8f90cb52dd34406a9e69c1a5be0b706 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:45:00 -0000 On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:45:15AM +0200, Volker wrote: > Hi! > > Reading some of the latest blog entries today, I've seen there has > been some (newbie) user frustration with the latest X.org upgrade > (mostly by not reading docs or not understanding the ports system at > all). flz@ and des@ had a lot of trouble with some guys. > > Currently, if a new user is trying out FreeBSD, he will most likely > set up a 6.2-RELEASE system and end up in the X.org upgrade war. As a > new user is most likely not prepared to manage the system at all, he > will most likely probe FreeBSD being unmaintainable (as he will most > likely not know how to deal with ports at all). A new user setting up a 6.2-RELEASE system will most likely use the packages and/or the ports tree that shipped with 6.2-RELEASE. The X.org upgrade will only be a concern to such a user *if* he upgrades his ports tree. Most new users will likely not know how to do that. > > While reading about all that latest trouble, I think it might not be a > bad idea to have a (quick) release cycle and release something like > 6.2.1-RELEASE (6.3 is still TBA). I'm considering the latest X.org > upgrade being a major upgrade which would justify a release cycle (@ > flz: you did a great job). That would keep the trouble from new users > and also from some mailing lists. > > I know there's a release cycle for 7-CURRENT planned next June but > IMHO it can be delayed for some weeks. > > What does the core and releng team think? It might do good. A quick release cycle for a release from -STABLE sounds like a bad idea. There have been enough new things that have gone into the 6-STABLE branch that a full release cycle seems warranted. I also think that it would be a bad idea to create *any* new release until after the X.org upgrade has settled down - it has not done that quite yet as far as I can tell. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se