From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 13:45:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F66C16A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:45:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A8F43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 28843448 for multiple; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:45:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9F8AEDEA-0548-4C97-B83F-8258706F59F1@shire.net> References: <200511020016.56885.danny@ricin.com> <9F8AEDEA-0548-4C97-B83F-8258706F59F1@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:46:29 -0500 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Danny Pansters , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:45:53 -0000 On Nov 1, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Danny Pansters wrote: > >> On Tuesday 1 November 2005 22:22, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> >>> On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>>> Of course not. You got what you deserved though so shut the hell >>>> up. >>>> >>> >>> Ted, you need to shut the hell up. FreeBSD is not your project and >>> >> >> It's not yours either. > > And I am not trying to argue and make claims about how inexcusable it > is either. I merely pointed out to Ted that he is not in the FreeBSD > project and therefore does not have say. Then why was the logo contest opened to all users of FreeBSD (or non-users)? >> That's no reason to discard one's opinion, especially >> if that person arguably has the same stake/interest/influence as you >> do. > > I am not trying to defend the new logo or beastie or anything as it is > not my project and we have been through this 10000000000 times > already. It is not our decision. Then who was solicited to send in entries? Why can't the users of a product express their opinions? Why didn't the core project go hire a professional designer to do this with their marketing budget if that's what the aim of this logo project was? > I personally find the new logo stupid, I think beastie is a great > mascot, and we need a new logo for FreeBSD. You must be on the project, since in the above you were saying that Ted has no say in the project and it isn't his yet then you say "we need a new logo"...?