From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Dec 2 09:02:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CF3A34EA4; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A57B21500; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [192.168.1.22] (253.Red-83-32-1.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.32.1.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7543C04; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 03:02:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: svn commit: r402813 - head/misc/astrolog To: Andrey Chernov , marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201512020629.tB26TbDb060296@repo.freebsd.org> <565E9DFA.6050502@marino.st> <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> <565EAD1E.8080805@marino.st> <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org> Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org From: John Marino Message-ID: <565EB3B7.8030208@marino.st> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:02:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:02:52 -0000 On 12/2/2015 9:54 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > > 3) Contact the person who does most commits to this port. I think this is a dream. I don't expect people to sort through the history and try to figure out a commit pattern, plus the presence of a prior commit doesn't imply a willingness for a future commit. > IMHO ports@freebsd.org means "collectively maintained" (without any > obligation, but with good intentions). There is no reason to put e-mail > address in this field otherwise, just the word "unmaintained" which > clearly indicates no contacts. This is incorrect. It's ports@FreeBSD.org because it needs a valid email address, in this case a mail list. This philosophical disagreement is a problem, because I would sooner deprecate an unmaintained port than fix it. If you care about this port so much, then adopt it. > BTW, maintained ports for me is worse thing. I can quickly fix any > unmaintained port, but for maintained one I need to wait 2 weeks timeout > and by my personal stats only ~20% maintainers reply. Either their > emails are dead or they just ignore requests. We even don't have any > automation to collect and remove dead maintainer addresses in regular basis. The good news is that after 3 timeouts (or less depending on circumstances) you can reset the maintainer. If it's a one time timeout, that's life. If it's a theme, then we have options. John