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Date:      Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:32:19 -0800 (PST)
From:      Tony Li <tli@jnx.com>
To:        dennis@etinc.com
Cc:        isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: changed to: Frac T3?
Message-ID:  <199611192232.OAA16231@chimp.jnx.com>
In-Reply-To: <199611191536.KAA07083@etinc.com> (dennis@etinc.com)

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   >In fact, there is a _great_ deal of painful experience in dealing with
   >routers where there isn't quite enough CPU time to get everything done.
   >Routing protocols are basically soft real-time distributed systems.  When
   >they get delayed, they tend to collapse in spectacular ways.  As a result,
   >putting any significant non-routing load on a router is a _really_ bad
   >idea. 

   that's 'cause you've been working with machines that have stinky little CPUs
   :-)

Like 150Mhz MIPS boxes.  ;-)  You're right.  Of course, I also consider a
PP200 to be a "stinky little CPU", so we still haven't gotten rid of the
problem.

   > You MIGHT be able to get away with it by suitable modifications to
								   ^^^^^^
   >>the Unix scheduler, but then it wouldn't be Unix, would it?  ;-)  And the
   >>cost of another box to support a server is sufficiently low that it would
   >>seem to make sense not to risk the routing...

   The point of this discussion, I believe, was to try to determine what
   "it" is.  As machines get faster, it keeps changing. Certainly there is
   a limit, but its not totally clear what it is.

As I think I pointed out in another message, "it" is a guarantee of cycles
and I/O to the routing protocols.

Tony






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