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Date:      Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:02:16 -0400
From:      "Andrew C. Hornback" <hornback@wireco.net>
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Hardware" <hardware@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Install problem
Message-ID:  <010a01c0cd5e$0b6a2720$0e00000a@tomcat>
In-Reply-To: <00f901c0cb09$a9778360$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ted
> Mittelstaedt
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:53 AM
> To: Andrew C. Hornback; genocide@adelphia.net
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: RE: Install problem
>=20
> >	What you are running into is the wonderful foresight of=20
> >IBM's engineers when they came up with MCA, back in the mid 80s. =20
> >MCA doesn't allow hardware to occupy an IRQ, as the rest of the=20
> >world understands it.
>=20
> Actually, the MCA bus is a lot like the PCI bus.  IBM wanted to
> permit interrupt sharing so they did, and actually the MCA
> bus had dozens to hundreds of technical advancements over ISA.

	MCA also has a slot similar to PCI, physically.  But, as a bit of =
trivia for the uninitiated, there are three different MCA slots which =
makes putting older MCA hardware to work a bit more challenging. =20
=20
> At the time that MCA came out, there were MANY motherboard
> manufacturers that were wanting to implement it on their boards.
> Unfortunately, IBM got greedy and demanded very steep licensing
> fees.  As a result, the rest of the industry came up with EISA
> which is technically poorer.  Otherwise, today we would all be running
> MCA.

	I always figured it was something like that, since IBM had lost it's =
stake in the PC market due to licensing the technology out, and the fact =
that Phoenix BIOS was out there for the clones to be built with.  I =
figured it was either the licensing cost, or the fact that the "Big =
Five" wanted to show IBM who was boss, as a power play.  (feels like he =
needs to dust off his old issues of Byte, for nostalgia's sake)

> >	As much as I hate to say it, there is a version of Linux=20
> >that will run on MCA, if you can find it.  And I believe Solaris=20
> >might run on it, but that would be an old version as Sol8 doesn't=20
> >even support ISA anymore.
> >
> >	IBM builds good, strong, solid hardware... your machine=20
> >still being around and in good running shape is a testament to=20
> >that.  Just good luck in finding software that'll work with their=20
> >quirky "next generation" architecture...
>=20
> OS/2 anyone?

	Got a shrinkwrapped copy of it sitting on my desk.  *grins*

--- Andy

Obligatory FreeBSD content - I didn't realize that there was a version =
of FreeBSD with support for the MCA bus.  What's the URL for the info on =
that puppy?


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