From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 01:24:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B2CC3C5 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337DD1CA2 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.1] (S01060001abad1dea.hm.shawcable.net [50.70.146.73]) (Authenticated sender: allan.jude@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40845576E9 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52F04152.5020202@allanjude.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:24:34 -0500 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating ports References: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20140204012007.GZ1766@glenbarber.us> In-Reply-To: <20140204012007.GZ1766@glenbarber.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C03hliDPIDQq4P5ldqiX2guSHOJPiMSV3" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:24:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --C03hliDPIDQq4P5ldqiX2guSHOJPiMSV3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-02-03 20:20, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:10:55PM -0800, Dru Lavigne wrote: >> Currently, there are 2 Handbook sections that deal with upgrading port= s: >> >> 5.6.3. Upgrading Ports (which describes the use of the portmaster and= portupgrade ports) >> >> and >> >> 23.3. Portsnap: a Ports Collection Update Tool (which describes the bu= ilt-in portsnap) >> >> I would like to combine these into 5.6.3. >> >> Do we want to encourage the use of third-party utils or just encourage= the use of the built in one? >> > I think there are two separate topics here (without having looked at th= e > Handbook sections yet). I don't think portmaster and portupgrade > actually handle updating the ports tree itself, but handle > upgrading/rebuilding ports within the ports tree. > > Portsnap, on the other hand, does not actually touch the software > installed (meaning, it does not update the installed third-party > software), but only handles updating the ports tree sources themselves.= > >> If just the built in one, I'll replace 5.6.3 with the contents of 23.3= and reduce portmaster/portupgrade to a note that these utils are availab= le in the ports collection. >> >> If we should describe all three, I'll place 23.3 as the first utility = to be described in 5.6.3. >> > Glen > A section that discusses portmaster should probably talk about the similar functionality that is now 'pkg upgrade', which wasn't possible with the pkg_* tools --=20 Allan Jude --C03hliDPIDQq4P5ldqiX2guSHOJPiMSV3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJS8EFWAAoJEJrBFpNRJZKf2LIQALIvkZuw0i53NEl8JkkcgdXH jfOzuZ81QZsYxQefbrGrho6za8NoEUZSZgS4kdtCwP5bhf+SDeFZBnV4pknITrgG CAPn+UiGzanqntH5Da044xI45V0oI2T7FpcldH1BArxo6sdFBJAtrIdH+r7mCNNm Nd3fgsZzd87FOiQf5iMirYM85I1KW6ttZqU1t1JxNhXzRPnjg+e3aRA+2VC/QzHM dA898XbOOCVAo5fo4YSXb0jmy7dR3A1LIfUHEn0fLhVolekF3QxgClvNAbVDcXeC Iap2L8S7AiUto+voCgg20USWdbzrIB2dyxsPnZM/CzzbJdQ8MdJnRIMLyguqgZlO KrEHVDOA/z89BA/I7RjWCV23prWZWFuq/Qg7aAMIZNOPhKdihSZPMxm1ylc3GhJM gCLGnNooNtXZnIC4eOREL0dvdGI4jz9g9cVaRxTWrC01DN55X6UaeBqgG+7XpbIT KznaEX7rr0f4PIDwQKdyVKvp7oz+YTy92Su/bnwlS3zbIGP63OtH6XjldvzRYLG8 VDJ8FtxUadxdbdjKpu9NYClvfK5NQfCtEEBn8rth4UYtx1OwJ+TxkNp4zEAiroFD oK5BSuu7IuCP8FnMDyTOjQox5iEQ55x4VCTp2Mo8C5fFp7K2QniDuHgfx4AEPbWC KWdwe8MGzaST03SYDt4t =ePwc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C03hliDPIDQq4P5ldqiX2guSHOJPiMSV3--