From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 14 02:20:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D174DB for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toasty@dragondata.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x235.google.com (ie-in-x0235.1e100.net [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CB0E57 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 17so2584240iea.26 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dragondata.com; s=google; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=K0OCNCooWpIlcllA9QK2czSU6xJBHVlAbK+bk54L+BU=; b=DIIWZy4Z6jGiGWs5XQkmh6llpc+hloWeUnykgY/FMNj0y2Ra7NuBYdqAITwTj7j1To 6EtFYfY85ietL7Wh0GZCMw6XGO4hf3oS0X0nPMbGMQ3wqkBG6iWNtRE/aEHLnc/8eDg+ K3Qyt+6deanO4YAUe3MGAONYh4IvzWaBXwK0A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=K0OCNCooWpIlcllA9QK2czSU6xJBHVlAbK+bk54L+BU=; b=Id1ZwO2ioI3Ryje3wmfIKEDnfht3dL7HV+a6Oozi05Ylt5m7pFV8Z+AF5YMPRsg+9n IjfmP7S0cfsSmUb/Y5Byc7AZK3q4uO2fLiQ4T4lwJIpd/XksJ++o0llm3sRfOIrmvmtS W3F/gvlXeHHt3gBVGesi5Ud5YWw58grKdRZ1y0VPCR3Vvk7wERzC0m/SG+iX4SoM7CVo spHA/4dfzbafrSdjg3iaxNZ4TTPySZ1WLm3c8oQudmuuLiHKZBmZJ8z7V3shQz7xs9b3 TNBmXIp9RameDXbZTsCV67GLMX+/hV2bbXmp7OgGgXM5dhddP0xnM2im17WnOkXkM9NW 9pFw== X-Received: by 10.50.219.234 with SMTP id pr10mr15716716igc.26.1360808417187; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpn132.rw1.your.org (vpn132.rw1.your.org. [204.9.51.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bp7sm18003433igb.4.2013.02.13.18.20.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:20:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Obscure platform testbed From: Kevin Day In-Reply-To: <511C0B75.2050401@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:20:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <108E0BBD-5550-40C3-8117-1C9A4895E9CD@dragondata.com> References: <511C0B75.2050401@gmail.com> To: Joshua Isom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlugNxowpG0ckgwDre4WBZXVYDXWHxAIarb5ZDHgpZt9W4l2MrSzjb9FJjMVzH9Go5nSO+k Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 02:20:18 -0000 On Feb 13, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 2/12/2013 10:20 AM, Kevin Day wrote: >>=20 >> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, so if you know = of anyone who may be interested in this please forward to them. Right = now my company (your.org) does the free amd64/i386 VMs for FreeBSD = developers. >>=20 >> For an unrelated project, we're trying to build a testbed of many of = the more obscure *nix boxes, both running their native OS and a modern = OS. As an example, we've now got two SGI O2 R10K boxes, one running IRIX = and one running NetBSD. We're planning on doing the same for = Sparc64(Solaris and FreeBSD), VAX, ARM, etc. Where possible we'll have = NFS mounted home directories and NIS to have shared logins across the = "cluster". >=20 > I imagine your request would be more geared towards porters than = hackers. What you're creating would be of more use to someone = developing portable software. I wouldn't personally use it, but people = trying to develop for *nix but not just linux would need something. >=20 > As for non-intel boxes, you're probably better off with emulators that = support networking. Older processors are horribly power efficient by = todays standards, and a lot of the interesting systems have emulators = available. For this project, we really do need the real hardware. Long story, but = we need to demonstrate certain operations on legacy hardware itself. So, = while we're going through this hassle I thought I'd make it public if = there are any takers. I've had a few people interested in using it, and a couple people = offering up hardware. If anyone has interest, please contact me for more = off-list info! :) -- Kevin