From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 09:08:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43A2BCF6; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11060104D; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local ([12.157.112.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8298V6h019223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:08:31 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Berg , Michelle Sullivan , "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> In-Reply-To: <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:08:38 -0000 On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: >> sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in >> business is >> that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your >> choice. >> The custommers require it.. >> You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and >> operations >> department some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade 300 >> machines >> for no real reason (from their perspective). > FreeBSD minor version upgrades are meant to be non-disruptive. However, I will > admit that I have not performed any such upgrades in a critical environment, so > if you think they are disruptive, please enlighten me with the details. > Also, there are options out there for getting support for extended periods if > you need it. Some companies are built around providing support for things that > the original developers have long abandoned because some businesses need it. It's not how disruptive they are technically. it's how many months of shakedown testing you have to go through before they allow you to put new software on any production system. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >