From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 15:01:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554A816A408 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395F013C459 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from [10.0.3.231] ([70.111.176.151]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JWN00E6RAY1U202@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:58:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:01:32 -0500 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-reply-to: <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no> To: Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-id: <1203692492.63435.16.camel@RabbitsDen> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <20080219104532.0dc2b565@chaos.nox> <47BDB92C.9050808@d80.iso100.no> <20080222113646.2dbb9ec1@chaos.nox> <86zlttqmc9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <1203686245.63435.12.camel@RabbitsDen> <86oda9oxxe.fsf@ds4.des.no> Cc: svein-listmail@d80.iso100.no, freebsd-current , Mikael Ikivesi Subject: Re: 2 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:01:42 -0000 On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:42 +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" writes: > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > >> Your laptop overheats when running at its rated frequency? That's your > >> answer. Hardware error. [...] > > If "overheated" in this context means "initiated critical shutdown" > > [...] > > No, unless the Athlon has an internal temperature sensor and shuts > itself down when it reaches critical temperature, like the Intel Core > and Core 2 do. > > You can't rely on the BIOS or the OS to do it, because you have no idea > where the temperature sensor they rely on is placed. If I rephrase my point as "The fact that OS initiated shutdown because it thinks that your laptop has reached certain temperature threshold does not necessarily mean that your hardware is damaged." would you be more amenable to agreeing with it? > > > However, if "overheated" means "discolored and deformed plastic parts", > > you are absolutely right. > > Right. Your laptop is dead. Deal with it. > > DES -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко)