From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 22 8:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from BSDpc.geek4food.org (adsl-216-103-105-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.105.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82F37B9AC for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (mega.geek4food.org [192.168.1.57]) by BSDpc.geek4food.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BBA6C8; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega.geek4food.org (localhost.geek4food.org [127.0.0.1]) by mega.geek4food.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00685; Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@geek4food.org) Message-Id: <200005221531.IAA00685@mega.geek4food.org> To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: Andy Sparrow , stable@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird rodent behaviour In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:06 +0900." <200005220718.QAA16478@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------- Your message dated: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:18:06 +0900 >It IS detected correctly :-) As far as the mouse firmware is >concerned, Logitech Marble FX uses the PS/2++ protocol which is the >Logitech's proprietary protocol since MouseMan+/FirstMouse+. Marble >FX and MouseMan+ are software compatible and the mouse driver does not >need to distinguish the two. OK, it was just that it /used/ to report it as a MouseMan+.. :-) >I would like to see your mouse settings in /etc/rc.conf and XF86Config. >I also would like you to give "boot -v" at the boot loader prompt and >send me /var/run/dmesg.boot after the system is started. (Do not use >a KVM when you do this please.) OK, I'll do this tonight. >If you add "-3" option for moused (in moused_flags in /etc/rc.conf), >you may need to tweak the 3-button emulation timeout in the "-E" option >as well. But, as Marble FX does have the middle button, you shouldn't >need to use the "-3" option in the first place. Are you absolutely sure >that the middle button suddenly became inoperable? I'm afraid so. I already had the '-3' option for moused (because of the behaviour I described with the Xterm menu), but I found it much more convenient to use the middle button for pasting. The button events that are missed are more likely to be a 1st (i.e. left) button events than anything else. >>Even more recently (last w/e), I added a Linksys 4 port KVM switch, and took >>the M$ mouse off another machine and plugged it into the KVM. >> >>I now notice that: >> >>* The KVM switch seems to prevent the mouse being detected correctly, psm "se >e >>s" >> only a generic PS/2 mouse on both machines - dmesg says: >> >> psm0: failed to get data. >> psm0 irq 12 on isa >> psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > >I don't know which M$ mouse model you are using. But, if it is a >2-button model, without a wheel, the above message is correct. The >2-button MS mouse is very "generic" :-) Gack, the horror... I described the above inaccurately. I took a cheesy two button M$ mouse off the other machine (and threw it into a box), and the "it" in my description refers to plugging the Marble FX into the KVM (and thus into both machines, one 3.4-STABLE, the other 4.0-STABLE). Now they both report a "generic" mouse on boot-up (probably due to the KVM), but the middle button works for paste on the 3.4-STABLE machine, whereas I still have to chord to paste on the 4.0-STABLE machine. They both have '-3' as an argument to moused, and they both have '/dev/sysmouse' as the mouse device in XF86Config. Sorry for not wording that better. >The psm driver cannot distinguish every single mouse model on the >market. There are too many of them. It only detects and >distinguishes as many models and protocols as it needs to know to >operate the mouse correctly. Understand entirely :-) >If this MS mouse is IntelliMouse (it has a wheel), then your KVM is >not compatible with IntelliMouse and the psm driver cannot do anything >about it ;-< Yes, I appreciate that. However, it's the Logitech mouse I'm using with the KVM, and it works fine with one machine running 3.4-STABLE and not the machine running 4.0-STABLE. The moused and X configs are identical, and the machine running 4.0 worked fine when it ran 3.x.. Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message