From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Aug 7 10:40:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C38DCA585 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (hades.sorbs.net [72.12.213.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5C64CB5 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Received: from isux.com (firewall.isux.com [213.165.190.213]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OUB00H2HA0RZ700@hades.sorbs.net> for freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: DefCon lecture BSD Kern Vulns To: Mail Lists , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= Cc: freebsd-security , Big Lebowski References: <26de0aed-8151-6105-188f-ad0c6c6cf8b8@erdgeist.org> <867eyoshn0.fsf@desk.des.no> <1502056712.286617076@f387.i.mail.ru> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:40:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 In-reply-to: <1502056712.286617076@f387.i.mail.ru> X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 10:40:44 -0000 Mail Lists wrote: > > > > Monday, July 31, 2017 4:20 PM UTC from Dag-Erling Smørgrav > : > > Big Lebowski > writes: > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav > writes: > > > There are decades of history here of which you are clearly > unaware. > > > You may have the best of intentions, but nothing good will come of > > > raising this topic here and now. Just drop it. > > Des, please, stop doing that. You're greatest example of > cant-be-done > > about almost anything anyone asks for on this list. > > > > Michelle, please, don't stop. Keep talking, keep asking, and > maybe one > > day a new breed of people who don't care about cant-be-done or > > 'decades of history' will get things done. > > No. You truly have no idea. You're pouring gasoline on a fire and > inadvertantly insulting everyone involved. > > Come see me at a con and we can discuss it over a beer. But not here. > > Remind me - who are you to set the standards what people can tell and > what not ? > > I'm off this list. This is ridiculous. An important topic killed by > some dickhead. Don't be like that, it is important, but there is a lot of bad blood as well... one can only ask from time to time. -- Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/