From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Feb 4 18:22:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE9337B65D for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1293D6A90D; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:52:21 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:52:21 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Francisco Reyes Cc: David Schwartz , Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Conduct Unbecoming a Core Team Member Message-ID: <20010205125220.C462@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 10:17:04PM -0500 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 3 February 2001 at 22:17:04 -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, David Schwartz wrote: > >>> For several weeks now, a Core Team member whom I don't >>> know personally -- one Peter Wemm -- appears to be engaging >>> in a practice somewhere between spamming and mail bombing. >>> Each time I post a message to any mailing list to which >>> he happens to subscribes (including not only several FreeBSD >>> lists but also some others), an autoresponder sends a copy >>> of it back to me with a rude message plus reams of headers >>> attached. (An example appears below.) >> >> IMO, regardless of who is doing it or why, autoresponding to posts to a >> mailing list should be grounds for removal from that mailing list. >> DS > > I have agree 100% with both Brett and David. > That behavior should not be condoned. > > Who would be the best person in the FreeBSD organization that we > should contact? I don't think that person even deserves to be tried > to be contacted. abuse@freebsd.org or postmaster@freebsd.org > perhaps? That's the Core Team's job. The fact that Peter is a member doesn't protect him. FWIW, he's also one of the postmasters. > I know that many people don't like Brett emails, but as far as I > know he doesn't mail bomb anybody. Moreover if someone posts on a > list it is fairly ridiculous to expect only replies of people you > agree with. And if someone doesn't like his replies they should > ignore them.. but having an autoresponder.. which is trigered by > messages from the list... that is insane! I'd be inclined to agree. From what I can see, so does Peter. I don't block any individual myself, though I do send autoresponses to known spammers. But I can see how this matter came about: Peter didn't want any personal mail from Brett, so he put in an autoresponder. I think that's legitimate, if maybe a little heavy-handed. The problem was that he didn't realise that his autoresponder would also bounce list mail. We all make mistakes. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message