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Date:      Wed, 2 Dec 2015 12:23:32 +0300
From:      Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r402813 - head/misc/astrolog
Message-ID:  <565EB894.4090402@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <565EB3B7.8030208@marino.st>
References:  <201512020629.tB26TbDb060296@repo.freebsd.org> <565E9DFA.6050502@marino.st> <565EAB52.6010301@freebsd.org> <565EAD1E.8080805@marino.st> <565EB1AC.4000508@freebsd.org> <565EB3B7.8030208@marino.st>

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On 02.12.2015 12:02, John Marino wrote:
> On 12/2/2015 9:54 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>>
>> 3) Contact the person who does most commits to this port.
> 
> I think this is a dream.  I don't expect people to sort through the
> history and try to figure out a commit pattern, plus the presence of a
> prior commit doesn't imply a willingness for a future commit.

In that case we need some UNLOCKED_FOR_COMMITS = Yes (or some other
name) field. F.e. due to my personal circumstances I can't take full
responsibility to reply to change requests (even for several months
sometimes) and so to be maintainer for some ports, and I don't want to
prevent any people to modify it quickly too.

>> IMHO ports@freebsd.org means "collectively maintained" (without any
>> obligation, but with good intentions). There is no reason to put e-mail
>> address in this field otherwise, just the word "unmaintained" which
>> clearly indicates no contacts.
> 
> This is incorrect.  It's ports@FreeBSD.org because it needs a valid
> email address, in this case a mail list.

It is not an argument. "Valid email address" is just technical current
scripts requirement which can be easily fixed to count "unmaintained"
word too.

> This philosophical disagreement is a problem, because I would sooner
> deprecate an unmaintained port than fix it.  If you care about this port
> so much, then adopt it.

See the very first paragraph. In the early FreeBSD days there was no
enough bureaucracy to enforce such restrictions.

>> BTW, maintained ports for me is worse thing. I can quickly fix any
>> unmaintained port, but for maintained one I need to wait 2 weeks timeout
>> and by my personal stats only ~20% maintainers reply. Either their
>> emails are dead or they just ignore requests. We even don't have any
>> automation to collect and remove dead maintainer addresses in regular basis.
> 
> The good news is that after 3 timeouts (or less depending on
> circumstances) you can reset the maintainer.  If it's a one time
> timeout, that's life.  If it's a theme, then we have options.

Reset it to unmaintained which you plan to eliminate? Very funny.

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