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On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Ronald Klop wrote:

> Hello,
>=20
> Why is usbus seen as a network interface since some time?
> I'm running 9-CURRENT on amd64.

I've been wondering this, too.  It also started happening sometime in =
the lifetime of 8-STABLE some months ago, with "netstat -i" showing =
usbus network interfaces despite no ethernet NIC being attached.  It =
appears that "ifconfig" is smart enough to omit these in output, as was =
netstat in former times on RELENG_8 (and still is on RELENG_7), so why =
include them now?  Just wondering...

Cheers,

Paul.=