From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 22 18:17:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28823 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28731 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:16:41 GMT (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (aeiusrD-40.aei.ca [206.186.204.190]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28496; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <353E9659.42C83A7A@aei.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:16:09 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: #freebsd-newbies References: <353BB623.59353921@aei.ca> <19980421183744.56403@welearn.com.au> <353D0BF9.E6B2193@aei.ca> <19980422102451.37232@welearn.com.au> <353D4FE8.CB060112@aei.ca> <19980422123732.26573@welearn.com.au> <353D5BAD.69CABB78@aei.ca> <19980422130643.31796@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:53:33PM -0400, Malartre wrote: > > Sue Blake wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 10:03:20PM -0400, Malartre wrote: > > > > > > > *brain-dead* newbies as in the mail on hackers@freebsd.org > > > > > > Get used to it, until we can *demonstrate* that they are wrong > > > (or right, hehe) > > > > > > > Sue, your a very logic person :-) > > > > > > I've been reading man pages too long :-) > > > > > > > I will answer your question (if i find the mail, I will try) > > > > Well, a channel need to start somewhere. > > > > > > There might be more people happy about us being on irc.bsdnet.org than > > > you think. It all depends on how we handle it. > > > > > > Their main concerns seem to be: > > > 1. Newbies might ask questions in channels where people don't want > > > to answer questions. This feeling is very strong! We would have > > > to make sure that didn't happen. If we can help to keep newbies > > > out of the other channels by being there, they would be pleased. > > > 2. Newbies will tell each other the wrong advice, and give FreeBSD > > > a bad name. Nobody is available to help newbies, and if a newbie > > > can't get an answer there is no other channel to send them to. > > > > > > Some people say that there's a lot of brain-dead newbies on efnet already > > > and we should go there, but I get the impression newbies are not treated > > > very well on efnet. Does anyone have experience? > > > > > > If we take up residence on irc.bsdnet.org and after that newbies go to > > > the wrong channel asking for help, we will be called names much worse > > > than "brain-dead". We could prove them wrong. It could be a very good > > > place or very bad, depending on how we do it. Do you think you could > > > convince other newbies to stay in their channel? Would they want to? > > > What are you offering them? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > -*Sue*- > > > > > > find / -name "*.conf" |more > > > > > > > Until the channel is not started *and* a little bit supported by other > > newbies, I cannot offer anything other than my own help. > > > > I am not stupid, I try to give some respect on other mailling list where > > there is discution about newbies. > > So I dont care about *brain-dead*. On hackers@freebsd.org , they are > > frustrated of win95... And they dont do anything to help. > > I try my best to do that channel work. And now there is people who want to > > support it. > > > > Its a good Idea to put it on irc.freebsd.org. And in long-term, it should be > > a good idea to put that server in the ircII port... > > > > what other newbies have to say? > > Psst! Why don't you ask them (not just me) > > Your keyboard must be the same brand as mine, the kind with buttons > that change position :-) > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > find / -name "*.conf" |more DOH! Why that apens only to me! hehe The CC have not worked. sorry! Malartre :-) -- -------------------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD 4 Newbies project Windows_95-B Unix FreeBSD-2.2.5 -------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message