From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 20 18:57:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758AA37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-86.apple.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F350443F75 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from basilbourque@mac.com) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h2L2vWdg028179 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([216.254.22.197]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HC2W7V00.8CX for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:57:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:57:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Hmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Basil Bourque To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <0njk7v8tqbl7812t37qq4nsodqbrgmgs6t@4ax.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, Mar 20, 2003, at 15:58 US/Pacific, John Murphy wrote: >> I have several computers, Windows & Macintosh & want to learn >> UNIX. > > You will have a lot of fun. Can you run OS ten on that Mac? Yes, as an old-time Mac user I can vouch that Mac OS X is a great way to dabble in Unix while still enjoying a usable computer. All the Unix stuff you learn on Mac OS X is directly applicable to BSD. And vice-versa, you can read about Unix stuff and try it out on your Mac. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Tips: - Install Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.2.x), not 10.1.x. Jaguar had many tweaks and fixes for Unix and related network stuff. Upgrade to the latest 10.2.4. http://www.apple.com/macosx/ - Learn about Apple's Terminal program. The book publisher O'Reilly has some great online articles for learning the Terminal and other Mac-Unix stuff. http://macdevcenter.com/ http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/collections/unix.html - The shell used by default in Apple's Terminal is "tcsh", rather than the more common 'bash'. If you really want detail about tcsh, look at this O'Reilly book: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tcsh - All the Unix stuff is built-in to Mac OS X, as is Java. You don't need to add any downloads except do all the suggested updates in Apple's "Software Update" system prefs panel. If you ever want compilers, Apple has a separate large "Developer Tools" download. --Basil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message