From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 18 21:20:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA23304 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (m16.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA23297 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wakkym@juno.com) Received: (from wakkym@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ARW27094; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:18:59 EST To: tlambert@primenet.com Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Internal modem suckage (was: close() on a modem taking a long time?) Message-ID: <19971219.001640.5295.0.wakkym@juno.com> References: <199712190353.UAA02805@usr01.primenet.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-9,19-21 From: wakkym@juno.com (Lee Cremeans) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:18:59 EST Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [diverging from the topic at hand...redirected to -chat] On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 03:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Terry Lambert writes: > >If the modem is internal, well, then you get what you deserve >(internal >modems suck). Well, to be honest, internal modems were (and I stress "were") fine for casual use in BSD up until recently. A lot of the internals these days are Plug-and-Play, or UART-less, or (fear and loathing time) BOTH. The USR WinModems are perfect examples of this; the things should burn in hell as far as I'm concerned... :P At least with some PnP modems, they have real UARTs on board, and you can at least USE them after you get the PnP configured--not so with WInModems. If I get another modem, it'll most likely be an external, and not until 56K is standardised...Im currently running on a 1995-vintage Cardinal/Rockwell 28.8, one that actually has jumpers on it (FreeBSD loves it).