From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 16:57:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499A0106566C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC48FC1D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A0900073A6F8; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49DF7A74.2080206@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:57:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49D76B02.4060201@onetel.com> <54db43990904071435h5dc1e854p2e9892ac666aea35@mail.gmail.com> <200904080859.41807.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <54db43990904081224l7c006143icac411c482401620@mail.gmail.com> <49DF56C9.4080302@onetel.com> <20090410174516.85bade77.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090410174516.85bade77.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new package system proposal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:57:27 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:13 +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Is there a quick way to find out how big are the tarballs without >> downloading them all or adding them up one by one? > > I think it's possible to obtain an FTP ls listing and then use > awk to get the column with the size (in bytes) and add them, > printing the final result and maybe converting it into MB, GB > if needed. It's in /distinfo: chrisw@pcbsd% grep SIZE distinfo SIZE (vlc-0.8.6i.tar.bz2) = 11786172 > >> Would anyone want a five year old package? > > Yes, I would, because today's packages are sooo slooow. :-) Well my disk space estimate was way high, I didn't allow for the fact that not all packages would be upgraded each cycle, therefore the disk space requirement would be less. So maybe 500gb would do 10 years. Do you think you will be using 10 year old packages? By then you will have freecycled a computer that will run relatively newer apps. > > >> I did wonder if it would make sense to just use the PBI system. The >> number of packages depends to some extent on individuals volunteering to >> make and maintain them - true FreeBSD style. > > Allthough I prefer the traditional and well intended ways, I could > live with PBI as long as there's an automated way to install them, > read: command line, ability for batch processing. I simply don't > want to waste time for "Next, next, okay, next, next, next, reboot." :-) It's very easy actually. A widget, if so configured, tells you when there is an update for a PBI. You select it and click ok and that's about it. Reboot? This is not Windoze you know! :0