From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 19:03:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416116A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE1D43D1D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2332VUA081520; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:02:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from localhost (narvi@localhost)i2332U7N081517; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:02:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 05:02:30 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20040301151906.34565604@vixen42.> Message-ID: <20040303050149.H79809@haldjas.folklore.ee> References: <20040229222159.GA47191@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20040301151906.34565604@vixen42.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on haldjas.folklore.ee cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daemon's Advocate article X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 03:03:00 -0000 On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:09:33 -0800 > Johnson David wrote: > > > On Sunday 29 February 2004 02:21 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > > http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200402/dadvocate.html > > > > > > I found the article very interesting. > > > > > > What do you all think? What is being done to keep BSD from ending > > > up where Greg says it might be going - suitable only for > > > developers? > > > > What is being done? Nothing. I get the impression that no one "in > > charge" is the slightest bit concerned about the FreeBSD user. This > > is most notable on the desktop side, but it extends to any user. > > There's this attitude that if you want something in FreeBSD, you > > must do it yourself. > > :/ The big problem is there is needed a desktop distro... and a good > gtk+ front end to the ports, rc.conf, and sysctl. > +1