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Date:      Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:08:24 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Erik Norgaard <norgaard@math.ku.dk>
To:        Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo@nexlabs.com>
Cc:        Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Basic FreeBSD firewall and patching questions.
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510201058040.17272@shannon.math.ku.dk>
In-Reply-To: <035f01c5d554$e3514350$c801a8c0@nexpc>
References:  <87br1kk72v.fsf@rimspace.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510200951350.16151@shannon.math.ku.dk> <035f01c5d554$e3514350$c801a8c0@nexpc>

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Foo Ji-Haw wrote:

> Thanks for the brief breakdown on ipf and ipfilter. But what about ipfw? I
> like the 'auto-swap ruleset' feature, as well as account. Does ipfw do them
> as well? Thanks.

No idea, never used it and I donīt plan to. I'm using pf now, it 
does what I need although I miss the two mentioned features, and I 
see no reason to change.

I asked on the openbsd list for the ability to have an inactive 
ruleset and swap for the very same reasons you want it, and got 
flamed:

"why would you ever want that?", "you can keep a backup in a 
file", "why wouldn't you want to have 10 or 100 rulesets?", "you 
can check your ruleset with pfctl -n", "it won't load if there are 
errors".

They didn't get that the checks catches only syntactically 
incorrect errors, not those typos that can lock you out while 
strictly correct - like 10.0.0.0/2 instead of 10.0.0.0/24.

So don't request it. Same thing for groups.

Cheers, Erik
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