From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:21:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7873916A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA5743D73 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBEKOWb09401; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "RW" , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:21:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: caleb Subject: RE: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:40 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of RW >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:08 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: caleb >Subject: Re: pine > > >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' > >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure >authentication, there >nothing you can do to protect your password. Garbage. The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line and sniffing your passwords. Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his router to his mail server. But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords when they have access to the network between your PC and the ISP's mailserver. Ted