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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:20:33 -0000 On 2020-10-12 13:06, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 2020-10-12 20:49, David wrote: >> On 2020-10-12 12:08, Niclas Zeising wrote: >>> On 2020-10-12 19:02, David wrote: >>>> On 2020-10-12 10:43, Niclas Zeising wrote: >>>>> On 2020-10-12 17:08, David wrote: >>>>>> On 2020-10-12 08:15, Niclas Zeising wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-10-11 18:55, 2yt@gmx.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2020-10-11 09:39, Mark Saad wrote: >>>>>>>>> 2yt >>>>>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you provide us some details , what do you have = in your >>>>>>>>> boot/loader.conf , etc/sysctl.conf >>>>>>>>> and what do you have in your Xorg config ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /etc/X/11/Xorg.conf does not exist. (auto generate on startup) As >>>>>>>> far as >>>>>>>> I know, the only synaptics related setting I have is in >>>>>>>> /etc/boot.conf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D"1" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the default on FreeBSD 12.2. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for letting me know. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Attached are the files you requested and the output of sysctl >>>>>>>> hw.psm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 11:29 AM <2yt@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I use a Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen. After upgrading to 12.2 fro= m >>>>>>>>>> 12.1, I >>>>>>>>>> lost=C2=A0 "tap to click" which worked perfectly in past releas= es. Is >>>>>>>>>> this a >>>>>>>>>> know feature change? Is there a new sysctl variable that needs >>>>>>>>>> set? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The other synaptics features are all working just fine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you show what xinput --list-props for the trackpad? (list with >>>>>>> xinput --list-devices and then check which device is the trackpad, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> xinput --list-props id-of-trackpad). >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the troubleshooting help. The output you requested do= es >>>>>> show "Tapping Enabled" set to 0. Is this the problem? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It could be.=C2=A0 You could try just running something like >>>>> `xinput --set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'libinput Tapping >>>>> Enabled'` >>>>> and see if it helps. >>>>> You can use the ID of the device instead of the name, but the ID mig= ht >>>>> change if you for instance boot the machine with an additional >>>>> keyboard >>>>> or something.=C2=A0 If it works, you can put it in your .xinitrc eor >>>>> .xsession, and it should take effect every time you start X. >>>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Yes, running `xinput --set-prop 10 'libinput Tapping Enabled' 1` did >>>> resolve the problem. I will update .xinitrc as a workaround. >>>> >>>> Question: is this problem unique to my laptop? Are other Thinkpad use= rs >>>> not experiencing this issue with 12.2? >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for helping me. I can't stand the clicking noise th= e >>>> touchpad makes. >>> >>> I don't know if others are experiencing this issue.=C2=A0 Myself, I've= had >>> the xinput stuff (and some other things) in my .xinitrc for quite some >>> time. >>> Yours is the first report that I've seen about this. >>> Regards >> >> In the next day or so I will do a fresh install to confirm whether it i= s >> a bug in 12.2 or an update/ssd corruption issue. Will update you with >> the results. >> >> Thanks again for the help! > > There has been changes in how input devices are handled in FreeBSD xorg. > =C2=A0Most of them should have been visible in 12.1 already, but it mig= ht be > due to this. > It is definitely not a bug, it might have been a default that changed > with the various updates to xorg and friends, though. > Regards Of course you are correct, it is not a bug, rather an undocumented feature change. I did a fresh install of 12.2-RC2 then installed xorg and drm-fbsd12.0-kmod but X wouldn't start. I had to install from ports drm-fbsd12.0-kmod for X to work. The "tap to click" did not work. Perhaps we could update the wiki https://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad to include the the instructions to enable/disable "tap to click".